4daily runs with the money

The recent debacle at http://www.4daily.com/ raises some serious questions regarding the venture that go way beyond simple mismanagement of the program and members funds by it’s owner Jim Hunt aka Kevin Hewitt. That it was discovered Jim Hunt may be an alias for Kevin Hewitt is, in itself, disturbing and gives one pause to consider the integrity of the program.

From the beginning, the venue seemed to be on the fast track. The owner claims on the site and in advertising to have over 200,000 members and to have paid out over $4,000,000 since opening the program October 2004. Those are the CLAIMS made by a person who appears to be a liar and a thief. As Kevin Hewitt, Jim Hunt operated a classic scam program called http://www.cashits.com (not to be confused with yet another scam http://cashitz.com/). He ran the program IN EXACTLY the same manner he is now running http://www.4daily.com/ - the same operating issues, same purported hackers, same money issues, same everything.

Given that the man is probably an established scam artist, every aspect of this venue deserves close scrutiny and testing. In reviewing forums, posts, and articles (real articles not advertisements) and then holding those findings up to what I have learned as a traffic site owner myself, I am wondering if the whole 4d thing was not just one huge crock from day one.

1. 200,000 members. Did you know that there is software on the market that sends robots out to auto join programs for you? Paul at PT-Scripts, the genius who developed the traffic exchange script Xtream uses, has spent countless hours putting in ways to PREVENT robots from auto joining our sites. However, it is possible, and in the case of 4d highly probable, that Jim Hunt and company used robots to create thousands - possibly over 200,000 or more ARTIFICIAL members. Using this technique, he was able to drive up membership to the levels it is shown and in which he advertises the program with.

2. All those members surfing and sites shown:There are also ROBOTS who surf. Again, Paul spent more hours (and still does) creating ways to stop and defeat the robots. But on sites with unscrupulous owners you can take all those artificial members you created, put robots onto those accounts, and then surf the program away thus creating what appears to be tons of hits and traffic to the sites listed in the exchange.

3. $4 million paid to members:Here is where it really gets interesting (and scammy.) All those artificial accounts you created? Well, you can artificially put ‘money’ on those accounts. It is all cybercash at this point - no actual hard currency or real money involved. You have now ARTIFICIALLY added value to the program which you can now use in statistics to lure members to your site and then to entice them to upgrade.

You can even CLAIM to payout those people! Once you add cash, whether through an actual transaction (ie someone paid you) or through merely putting that money on an account, you can then tell the script to ‘pay’ a member or members. This takes the figures you placed on an account or accounts and moves them into your ‘paid’ database. In this way you cook the books so to speak and create the illusion of having a. lots of money and b. having paid out lots of money.

Note, you have only told the script to pay the members, no actual money has been paid to anyone and no actual payment transaction has really taken place. You do that separately through your payment processor. No one is tracking that one.

So, the reality of this scenario is that you have a site in which you merely fabricated memberships, surfing, cash on accounts and then the pay outs to create the illusion of a wildly successful enterprise. It is my belief that this is what happened and is happening at 4d.

Of course, not all those members are artificial nor was/is their money smoke and mirrors! Many real members joined and surfed and upgraded and spent money with this failing program. In return, they get nothing. Which is exactly what the members of 4daily.com are getting back from Jim Hunt.

Jim Hunt has run with the money…the actual members’ money. Was there ever the amount of money involved Jim claims in his current and ongoing advertising campaign or states on his site? Doubtful. Did Jim ever payout millions of real dollars to thousands of members? Highly unlikely.

However, he HAS wiped out EVERY single member’s accounts, their earnings and their compounds - even the REAL members who paid (and surfed and earned and compounded) and in effect STOLEN from every single real live member at his site. He continues to refuse to pay ANY of the real, live members, including those who requested payment from him as far back as June 2005. He also continues to ADVERTIZE the contrary - that he pays 100% of the members 100% of the time on a site that is most likely one built entirely on smoke and mirrors.

If you have been ripped off by Jim Hunt and 4Daily - no matter the amount - that is a tragedy, one that needs redress. you can take action by filing claims against him and his company. Please visit our forum for details: http://xtreamsurf.com/XtreamNet/viewtopic.php?t=386