Check the payment processors BEFORE you invest:

Ever wonder why some sites - especially so-called opportunity or investment or paid to sites only offer Egold? Some of them are bold enough to say they don‘t offer Paypal or StormPay because of the ‘high fees.‘ Riiiggght. Like, here you are opening your hot new store just in time for the holiday season and you don’t offer Visa or MasterCard. You offer American Express maybe or Diners Club or Bank of Lithuania (opps, I don’t think Lithuania exists anymore.) But no big V or MC. And you sure don’t accept checks!

Lol. So what is up with that scenerio anyway? The two biggest and most well known payment processors on the Net are PayPal and StormPay. Why would anyone in their right minds (ok, or left. Ok, just in their minds) NOT want to have these two processor options? The fees? Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Well, one of the reasons is because PayPal and StormPay have aggressive scam reviews and mechanisms in place. Not to say a very honest and legitimate site has NEVER come under scrutiny. There are those who file false allegations against sites. (Kinda like those who file false spam reports. It DOES happen.) Paid to sites are especially subject to review, especially in light of the rampant abuse in these venues.

Don't take me wrong here either. This is no slur on Egold or IntGold or Moneybookers and etc. Is is a simple fact that neither of these payment processors have the reach or acceptance, especially in the U.S., as PayPal or Stormpay. So why LIMIT yourself and your site's reach?

Usually, when a site does NOT offer either PP or SP, there is a really good reason. And that reason usually has to do with abuse reports against THAT specific site or (and really key on new venues) that the owner or owners have had substantiated reports of abuse on OTHER sites they have operated. This stuff follows you around. Once you establish a track record, for better or worse, that record follows you around practically forever.

It could also mean the owner/operators are under age. I am all for the entrepreneur experience and energy for any and all ages, but when it comes to investing my money in a site - wanting a responsible adult supervising somewhere on this one. (Ok, some adults need supervising as well.)

Yeah. So, buyer beware on new sites wanting YOUR money and very limited payment processor options.

Interesting site you may wish to join: BlazingLinks. They accept both Paypal and StormPay. All the Xtream Venues offer both payment options as well. For a complete listing of those sites please see a XtreamNet Marketing Site or join XtreamNet Marketing Center

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Invest with Paid to Surf cautiously:

Like anything else, paid to surf is a business and must be run by people as a business and with ethics. so, pick and choose and RESEARCH before and during your experience.

My partner learned the hard way this year that past performance is NO indication on present or future. You have to constantly check the boards, do a search engine search and etc - even on good performers. The site that paid you on time last month...may not the next.

I recommend cautious investing with any paid to surf venue. Invest once, take the payout. This is a check and balance - you check to see if they pay on time. Invest again. if it looks good, compound. then, next time take out the payment instead of doing another compound. next time, do the research. If it looks good still - compound. then repeat until you reach a level you are comfortable with. My strategy is to have taken matching payouts to compound level - this way you a. make a little while compound to make a little more in the future. Then, if the site goes belly up, you have not LOST.

I do not advise you ever investing and then compounding everything, never taking a payout. This is how you end up losing big time. For example, if you have invested and compounded at 12DailyPro to $200 level, when it comes time for payout or compound - leave what ever is necessary to maintain your $200 level and cash out the rest. Do this until you have cashed out $200. Then, after you have cashed out at least $200, research. If it looks good - compound again. If it looks so-so, leave what ever is necessary in to keep your level and just cash out. continue this until the site looks healthy enough to consider a compound again or until it goes bust.

In this manner you achieve the best of both worlds - profit balanced by cautious investment. having compounded to the $5000 level without ever taking a payout does you no good if the site fails to pay you! lol.

Of course, many unscrupulous owners (like the scam http://www.4daily.com ) counted on members compoundsin ng rather than taking the payout. This is where everyone can get into trouble.

Never simply take the word, published or not, of the program owner. Test what the owner and site is saying about itself by browsing the search engines and the forums. One simple thing I do is type in the name of the program, like 12daily, and then see what comes up in the search engines. Another thing I do is check a number of forums to see what members are saying (if anything) about a site.

Especially check on sites which offer guarantees. Guarantees are usually a good sign, but there have been abuses in the industry in this regard so, again, research is always advised. PowerPaySurf is a site that offers a guarantee on payout. To date it has made payments to members on time.

4daily runs with the money

The recent debacle at http://www.4daily.com/ raises some serious questions regarding the venture that go way beyond simple mismanagement of the program and members funds by it’s owner Jim Hunt aka Kevin Hewitt. That it was discovered Jim Hunt may be an alias for Kevin Hewitt is, in itself, disturbing and gives one pause to consider the integrity of the program.

From the beginning, the venue seemed to be on the fast track. The owner claims on the site and in advertising to have over 200,000 members and to have paid out over $4,000,000 since opening the program October 2004. Those are the CLAIMS made by a person who appears to be a liar and a thief. As Kevin Hewitt, Jim Hunt operated a classic scam program called http://www.cashits.com (not to be confused with yet another scam http://cashitz.com/). He ran the program IN EXACTLY the same manner he is now running http://www.4daily.com/ - the same operating issues, same purported hackers, same money issues, same everything.

Given that the man is probably an established scam artist, every aspect of this venue deserves close scrutiny and testing. In reviewing forums, posts, and articles (real articles not advertisements) and then holding those findings up to what I have learned as a traffic site owner myself, I am wondering if the whole 4d thing was not just one huge crock from day one.

1. 200,000 members. Did you know that there is software on the market that sends robots out to auto join programs for you? Paul at PT-Scripts, the genius who developed the traffic exchange script Xtream uses, has spent countless hours putting in ways to PREVENT robots from auto joining our sites. However, it is possible, and in the case of 4d highly probable, that Jim Hunt and company used robots to create thousands - possibly over 200,000 or more ARTIFICIAL members. Using this technique, he was able to drive up membership to the levels it is shown and in which he advertises the program with.

2. All those members surfing and sites shown:There are also ROBOTS who surf. Again, Paul spent more hours (and still does) creating ways to stop and defeat the robots. But on sites with unscrupulous owners you can take all those artificial members you created, put robots onto those accounts, and then surf the program away thus creating what appears to be tons of hits and traffic to the sites listed in the exchange.

3. $4 million paid to members:Here is where it really gets interesting (and scammy.) All those artificial accounts you created? Well, you can artificially put ‘money’ on those accounts. It is all cybercash at this point - no actual hard currency or real money involved. You have now ARTIFICIALLY added value to the program which you can now use in statistics to lure members to your site and then to entice them to upgrade.

You can even CLAIM to payout those people! Once you add cash, whether through an actual transaction (ie someone paid you) or through merely putting that money on an account, you can then tell the script to ‘pay’ a member or members. This takes the figures you placed on an account or accounts and moves them into your ‘paid’ database. In this way you cook the books so to speak and create the illusion of having a. lots of money and b. having paid out lots of money.

Note, you have only told the script to pay the members, no actual money has been paid to anyone and no actual payment transaction has really taken place. You do that separately through your payment processor. No one is tracking that one.

So, the reality of this scenario is that you have a site in which you merely fabricated memberships, surfing, cash on accounts and then the pay outs to create the illusion of a wildly successful enterprise. It is my belief that this is what happened and is happening at 4d.

Of course, not all those members are artificial nor was/is their money smoke and mirrors! Many real members joined and surfed and upgraded and spent money with this failing program. In return, they get nothing. Which is exactly what the members of 4daily.com are getting back from Jim Hunt.

Jim Hunt has run with the money…the actual members’ money. Was there ever the amount of money involved Jim claims in his current and ongoing advertising campaign or states on his site? Doubtful. Did Jim ever payout millions of real dollars to thousands of members? Highly unlikely.

However, he HAS wiped out EVERY single member’s accounts, their earnings and their compounds - even the REAL members who paid (and surfed and earned and compounded) and in effect STOLEN from every single real live member at his site. He continues to refuse to pay ANY of the real, live members, including those who requested payment from him as far back as June 2005. He also continues to ADVERTIZE the contrary - that he pays 100% of the members 100% of the time on a site that is most likely one built entirely on smoke and mirrors.

If you have been ripped off by Jim Hunt and 4Daily - no matter the amount - that is a tragedy, one that needs redress. you can take action by filing claims against him and his company. Please visit our forum for details: http://xtreamsurf.com/XtreamNet/viewtopic.php?t=386

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